And also you should be put in the gay comunity for two years and see how we live it’s just like you live, we have jobs, we have cars our blood flows red, just like yours does or any other American in this country, you are nothing but a jerk, you should have a gay person come up to you and give you a big wet kiss right on the mouth.

We have rights you know, this but acording to you we don’t, I don’t think you should have any rights here either.

We should come to your state and have a gay pride march every weekend for the next ten years and go right be your house and your family can see and yes this is with the gay pride flags to, you should read the constitution like the fifth amendment better yet for the jerk you are just throw it out and right a new one and then you cram it up your ass.

As your comments point out, there have been times in America when: 1) the lives of Whites were valued more than the lives of Blacks; 2) the lives of Christians were valued more than the lives of Jews; 3) the lives of men were valued more than the lives of women; 4) the lives of the able-bodied were valued more than the lives of people with physical disabilities; and 5) the lives of the mentally healthy were valued more than the lives of people with mental disabilities. Indeed, we human rights
activists campaigned to changed those biases, prejudices and discriminations in fact as well as law.

Hate crimes legislation reverses that course. It values the lives of Blacks more than the lives of Whites and the lives of women more than the lives of men as well as the lives of the disabled more than the lives of the abled. Furthermore, the most common way to prove a hate crime is through evidence of “hate speech” which is to say statements made by the alleged perpetrator at the time or proximate to the time of the crime. Even the ACLU has acknowledged that making “hate speech” a crime is a violation of the Free Speech Clause of the 1st Amendment.

Moreover, many LGBT leaders know and others would agree that hate crimes legislation is bad law. But rather than undertake efforts to repeal bad law, LGBT “chose” to be included in bad law.
Solution to the inequities of hate crimes legislation is not inclusion therein but abolishment of such.

The fact that these laws may appear to be neutral belies the fact that is highly unlikely that: 1) a Black will be charged with a hate crime should he utter the word “honky,” prior to the assault or murder of a White person or even could it be otherwise demonstrated that the Black hated White people; 2) a Jew will be charged with a hate crime should he utter the word “Nazi,” prior to the assault or murder of a Christian or even could it otherwise be demonstrated that the Jew hated Christians; 3) a woman will be charged with a hate crime should she utter the word “bastard,” prior to the assault or murder of a man or even could it be proved otherwise that the woman hated men.

Likewise, it is unthinkable that a Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgender person would be charged with a hate crime should he/she utter the word “breeder,” prior to the assault or murder of a Straight person. In the case of LGBT, the problem is even more complicated because there is no DNA test by which one could prove that one is LGBT. The families and friends of most Jews know that their fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers or friends are Jewish. The “closet” means that many families and friends are unaware that their fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers or friends are Gay.

While most cases of rape are real, the fact is that there are women who cry rape knowing that the times have changed to such a degree that though legally the burden is that of the prosecutor on behalf of the female vicitim to prove the guilt of the male rapist, really the burden is that of the defense attorney on behalf of the male alleged perpetrator to prove his innocence.

While most cases of Gay bashing are real, the fact is that there are Straights who know that times have changed to such a degree that though there may still be stigma surrounding one’s identification as LGBT, they are prepared to claim that they are LGBT in order to potentially enhance the criminal penalties for those who have indeed violated them but not due to their sexual orienation. And this is not just a legal theory, it is a factual reality. Such has already taken place.

Two of my brother’s classmate friends and fellow Civil Rights workers, Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner along with James Chaney were lynched by Klu Klux Klansmen in Philadelphia, Mississippi in 1963. Suppose that prior to the killings, one or more of those Klansmen uttered the word “Nigger” or that it could be otherwise demonstrated that the Klansmen in question hated Blacks but not Jews, the potential penalty for murdering Chaney would have been greater than that for murdering Goodman and Schwerner. Suppose that Chaney had not been Black but the son of White Anglo Saxon Protestants and that prior to the killings, one or more of those Klansmen uttered the word “kike” or it could be otherwise demonstrated that the Klansmen in question hated Jews, the potential penalty for murdering Goodman and Schwerner would be greater than that for murdering a WASP Chaney.

What about a man injured or killed while defending a woman who is being called a “bitch,” “cunt” or “ho”? The potential penalty for the assault or murder of the woman would be greater than that for the assault or murder of the man who defended her. What about a Straight person injured or killed while defending a Gay or Lesbians who is being called a “fag” or a “dyke.” The potential penalty for the assault or murder of the Gay or Lesbian would be greater than that for the assault or murder of the Straight who defended the Gay or Lesbian.

What about a self-hating Latino who utters the word “Spic,” prior to assaulting or killing a fellow Latino. Is that a hate crime? What about a Chinese who utters the word “Jap” prior to assaulting or killing a fellow Asian? Is that a hate crime? What if the “Jap” turns out to be Filipino? What about a self-hating homosexual who utters the word “fag” prior to bashing a person he perceives to be Gay, but the victim out to be Straight? Is that a hate crime because the perpertrator thought the victim to be Gay? Or is not a hate crime because the perpetrator was mistaken about the sexual orientiation of the victim?

What about the White who says “Nigger” prior to assaulting or murdering a Black who passes for White? Is that not a hate a crime because the person passed for White or is it a hate crime because the person is in fact Black? What about the Straight who says “fag” prior to assaulting or murdering a person who passes for Straight? Is that not a hate crime because the person passed for Straight or is it a hate crime because the person is in fact Gay?

In American jursiprudence, the courts have determined that the offender must take the victim as he finds him. Which is to say that an offender is guilty for the damage done, regardless of his specific knowledge of the victim’s vulnerability. In other words: ignorance of the status may be no excuse.

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/brown/brown-segregation.html

George W. McLaurin Segregated to the Anteroom

George W. McLaurin, a veteran school teacher living in Oklahoma applied to the all-white University of Oklahoma to pursue an advance degree in education in 1948. His application was rejected because Oklahoma statutes made it illegal for blacks and whites to attend the same school. McLaurin filed a complaint against the University on the state court level and won. He was allowed to attend classes but not with his fellow students. This photograph shows how he was segregated to the anteroom of a classroom in 1948 after his admission. In 1950, McLaurin filed suit with the and U.S. Supreme Court and won. The case paved the way for the Brown v. Board of Education cases.

And of course Russell is being completely absurd in the statement, “All crimes against another person have some level of hate in them.” It is distressing to realize that this guy was in the Armed Forces of the United States long enough, and with sufficient acceptance, to have been able to retire as a lieutenant colonel.

The goal of the evil anti-gay agenda is to allow governemnt-sanctioned murder of gay people. Uganda is being used as a guinea pig by American radical anti-gay activists to determine the best way to put this in place. This measure allowing hate crimes against gay Americans is a first step to begin this process in Oklahoma and ultimately here in America.