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	<title>Comments on: DART indicates that it would still oppose an employee&#039;s gender-marker change</title>
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		<title>By: OMGgetover yourself</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMGgetover yourself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK so my 2cents.
How long ago was the Stonewall riot?
Long enough for me to be sorely disapointed with the so called leadership of the movement.
Being all politicaly nice and proper and having negotiations has not garned much at all. For all your talk of results you still can not get legal rights for ALL of us GLBT.

It is time for the old gaurd who to step asside and watch the radicals get some real progress.
 Or die trying at least.

It is benificial for the older queer generation to extend and draw out the process of obtaining our rights. That allows them more time to &#039;fight for the cause&#039;. Which allows for more book deals, more lectures and more personal wealth obtained as a result. I do not think the majority of the leadership even sees what they are doing, yet that does not take away the pathetic nature of the situation.

Lead follow or get out of the way. I see some radicals over yonder that seem to be serious about getting results.

Sincerly,
one of the GLBT citizens you are supossed to be fighting for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK so my 2cents.<br />
How long ago was the Stonewall riot?<br />
Long enough for me to be sorely disapointed with the so called leadership of the movement.<br />
Being all politicaly nice and proper and having negotiations has not garned much at all. For all your talk of results you still can not get legal rights for ALL of us GLBT.</p>
<p>It is time for the old gaurd who to step asside and watch the radicals get some real progress.<br />
 Or die trying at least.</p>
<p>It is benificial for the older queer generation to extend and draw out the process of obtaining our rights. That allows them more time to &#8216;fight for the cause&#8217;. Which allows for more book deals, more lectures and more personal wealth obtained as a result. I do not think the majority of the leadership even sees what they are doing, yet that does not take away the pathetic nature of the situation.</p>
<p>Lead follow or get out of the way. I see some radicals over yonder that seem to be serious about getting results.</p>
<p>Sincerly,<br />
one of the GLBT citizens you are supossed to be fighting for</p>
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		<title>By: kelli Busey</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelli Busey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Methodist 2008 GC in FW directly benefited from the Soulforce members like myself who are believers of nonviolent direct actions. We understood the dynamics of negotiations being conducted by our allies like those that Pamela spoke of.

Did the Methodist Church amend its book of discipline that summer to fully welcome all LGBT people? No they did not, but because of the way we conducted ourselves we changed the way the church thinks of us. Forever.
http://www.soulforce.org/article/1314

We are doing this now with DART as the world watches. It is my prayer that we accomplish our goal and DART fully welcomes transgender people in word and deed.

Does Soulforce training positively affect our community? Yes and I will hold myself as the example you seek.

Direct actions are a last resort when all other avenues are exhausted. This article ignites my passions but I temper my angst with experience and faith. Faith that when and if we have to stand on the street as I have done many times we will be there united loud and proud.

That is a reality DART must also appreciate..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Methodist 2008 GC in FW directly benefited from the Soulforce members like myself who are believers of nonviolent direct actions. We understood the dynamics of negotiations being conducted by our allies like those that Pamela spoke of.</p>
<p>Did the Methodist Church amend its book of discipline that summer to fully welcome all LGBT people? No they did not, but because of the way we conducted ourselves we changed the way the church thinks of us. Forever.<br />
<a href="http://www.soulforce.org/article/1314" rel="nofollow">http://www.soulforce.org/article/1314</a></p>
<p>We are doing this now with DART as the world watches. It is my prayer that we accomplish our goal and DART fully welcomes transgender people in word and deed.</p>
<p>Does Soulforce training positively affect our community? Yes and I will hold myself as the example you seek.</p>
<p>Direct actions are a last resort when all other avenues are exhausted. This article ignites my passions but I temper my angst with experience and faith. Faith that when and if we have to stand on the street as I have done many times we will be there united loud and proud.</p>
<p>That is a reality DART must also appreciate..</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Curry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Curry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$110 million for HIV medication and services to my credit so far</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$110 million for HIV medication and services to my credit so far</p>
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		<title>By: Tom P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calm down Pamela.

I don&#039;t think &quot;soulforce training&quot; has been helpful in our community.  Can you give me some examples of how it has helped?

Have you read your history books?  Equality isn&#039;t achieved by sitting back and being nice and waiting.

Patience?  No, I have none for public utilities such as DART putting gays at the back of the bus.

Go back to your closet and worry about how those activist gays are going to make you foot-shuffling gays look bad to your republican neighbors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calm down Pamela.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think &#8220;soulforce training&#8221; has been helpful in our community.  Can you give me some examples of how it has helped?</p>
<p>Have you read your history books?  Equality isn&#8217;t achieved by sitting back and being nice and waiting.</p>
<p>Patience?  No, I have none for public utilities such as DART putting gays at the back of the bus.</p>
<p>Go back to your closet and worry about how those activist gays are going to make you foot-shuffling gays look bad to your republican neighbors.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Curry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Curry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Tom it does not!

Negotiations are still ongoing. The committee has yet to discuss these issues much less vote them out to the board. Rules of order require that be two meetings of the committee. As soon as you initiate direct action protest and civil disobedience, you give the opposition the advantage and you tie the hands of the allies we do have on the board. Further more as soon as you start a public protest demonstration you will also alert the fundy whack-o nut jobs who so far are blissfully unaware of this debate. Let them stay at home, please, please, please?

There seems a contingent in our community that is seeking any opportunity to lash out; directly out of the starting gate, all guns blazing. They are under the mistaken impression that is how ACT Up did it, it is not. What you and others have proposed is nothing more than a counter productive grandstand circus act. Designed more for garnering self promotion and headlines and less on real civil progress.

It is clear that you have not taken the Soulforce training, nor have you been involved with ACT Up or as it was known in Texas ACT Now! and later renamed TAAC (Texas AIDS Advocacy Coalition) to distance itself from the hi-jacked fringe ACT Up/SF that started protesting the very researchers finding new treatments for HIV.

Effective advocacy and activism take a whole lot of time and patience. Which some such as yourself,  don&#039;t seem to have much of. If you start any direct action or protest you can wave good bye to that May committee of the whole board vote. You will also alienate the employee&#039;s that want our help, not your brand of help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Tom it does not!</p>
<p>Negotiations are still ongoing. The committee has yet to discuss these issues much less vote them out to the board. Rules of order require that be two meetings of the committee. As soon as you initiate direct action protest and civil disobedience, you give the opposition the advantage and you tie the hands of the allies we do have on the board. Further more as soon as you start a public protest demonstration you will also alert the fundy whack-o nut jobs who so far are blissfully unaware of this debate. Let them stay at home, please, please, please?</p>
<p>There seems a contingent in our community that is seeking any opportunity to lash out; directly out of the starting gate, all guns blazing. They are under the mistaken impression that is how ACT Up did it, it is not. What you and others have proposed is nothing more than a counter productive grandstand circus act. Designed more for garnering self promotion and headlines and less on real civil progress.</p>
<p>It is clear that you have not taken the Soulforce training, nor have you been involved with ACT Up or as it was known in Texas ACT Now! and later renamed TAAC (Texas AIDS Advocacy Coalition) to distance itself from the hi-jacked fringe ACT Up/SF that started protesting the very researchers finding new treatments for HIV.</p>
<p>Effective advocacy and activism take a whole lot of time and patience. Which some such as yourself,  don&#8217;t seem to have much of. If you start any direct action or protest you can wave good bye to that May committee of the whole board vote. You will also alienate the employee&#8217;s that want our help, not your brand of help.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This calls for some protests and possibly civil disobedience involving the city&#039;s transit system.  Sit ins?  Boycotts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This calls for some protests and possibly civil disobedience involving the city&#8217;s transit system.  Sit ins?  Boycotts?</p>
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		<title>By: Tisha McDaniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tisha McDaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx John for pissing me off today.  See you Tuesday at the Board meeting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx John for pissing me off today.  See you Tuesday at the Board meeting!</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Lane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good gawd these people are terrible. They need to stay out of people&#039;s personal matters! It is NONE OF THEIR GOD DAMNED BUSINESS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good gawd these people are terrible. They need to stay out of people&#8217;s personal matters! It is NONE OF THEIR GOD DAMNED BUSINESS!!</p>
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