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		<title>By: Peter O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a gay man. I am a U.S. citizen, living in Canada for the last 40 years. I left the states because of the increasingly repressive climate present at the time I left. It is far worse now. For all the progress that the GLBT community has made in that time, I salute you. But if you look at your own history, I believe that you will note that only one tool is really effective in changing people&#039;s behavior: economic sanctions. If it were my fight, (and it is; I am a Jew), I would immediately call for an economic  boycott of all the relevant institutions. Make it as wide as you can. The state will not change its behavior until it costs them something. And I mean real bucks. Boycott beef. Boycott travel. Boycott tourism. Boycott every product that has its origins in the Great Sovereign State of Texas, or at least in the city. Put on the pressure, and keep it on. It worked for orange juice. Why not for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a gay man. I am a U.S. citizen, living in Canada for the last 40 years. I left the states because of the increasingly repressive climate present at the time I left. It is far worse now. For all the progress that the GLBT community has made in that time, I salute you. But if you look at your own history, I believe that you will note that only one tool is really effective in changing people&#8217;s behavior: economic sanctions. If it were my fight, (and it is; I am a Jew), I would immediately call for an economic  boycott of all the relevant institutions. Make it as wide as you can. The state will not change its behavior until it costs them something. And I mean real bucks. Boycott beef. Boycott travel. Boycott tourism. Boycott every product that has its origins in the Great Sovereign State of Texas, or at least in the city. Put on the pressure, and keep it on. It worked for orange juice. Why not for this?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian nesbitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian nesbitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, a slap on the wrist vs. A week long hospital stay plus a couple years worth of headaches. Let the punishment fit the crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, a slap on the wrist vs. A week long hospital stay plus a couple years worth of headaches. Let the punishment fit the crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack E. Jett</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/07/03/letter-from-chief-halstead/comment-page-1/#comment-12016</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack E. Jett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be the only one that feels this way and perhaps it comes from being older and a bit more jaded or perhaps it comes from having seen this movie before....several times.
Halstead stating he is going to do something when he finds the funds is a wank off.   
A city the size of Forth Worth should have those minimal funds in hand.  I am sure it is cheaper than the hours will be from city lawyers.  

This is not an issue to be negotiated by a chosen few behind closed doors.  We saw how well that worked with the Cinemark/Plano.  The reason we never heard the result of that ...was because it was never resolved.....just brushed under the table.   

The tables in Dallas/Fort Worth must be full of shit being brushed under it.  

Rubber chicken dinners and kissing the ass of homophobes will never move any issue forward.

If the city is too short of money to provide for sensitvity training, then FIRE THE FUCKING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS that comitted this CRIME.  Take away their pensions and salary and use that as a start.  These guys have been busted in one lie after another.  
The bullshit line about the grope has been disputed and should be treated as slander.

As one of the speakers at Free Speech Night said.........I wanted to see these guys behind bars.........I agree.   Slaps on the wrist vs brain injuries seems a bit inadequate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may be the only one that feels this way and perhaps it comes from being older and a bit more jaded or perhaps it comes from having seen this movie before&#8230;.several times.<br />
Halstead stating he is going to do something when he finds the funds is a wank off.<br />
A city the size of Forth Worth should have those minimal funds in hand.  I am sure it is cheaper than the hours will be from city lawyers.  </p>
<p>This is not an issue to be negotiated by a chosen few behind closed doors.  We saw how well that worked with the Cinemark/Plano.  The reason we never heard the result of that &#8230;was because it was never resolved&#8230;..just brushed under the table.   </p>
<p>The tables in Dallas/Fort Worth must be full of shit being brushed under it.  </p>
<p>Rubber chicken dinners and kissing the ass of homophobes will never move any issue forward.</p>
<p>If the city is too short of money to provide for sensitvity training, then FIRE THE FUCKING LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS that comitted this CRIME.  Take away their pensions and salary and use that as a start.  These guys have been busted in one lie after another.<br />
The bullshit line about the grope has been disputed and should be treated as slander.</p>
<p>As one of the speakers at Free Speech Night said&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I wanted to see these guys behind bars&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I agree.   Slaps on the wrist vs brain injuries seems a bit inadequate.</p>
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		<title>By: shelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rainbow Lounge Raid Rally
Tarrant County Courthouse
100 E Weatherford
Sunday, July 12
7:00 PM

THE RAINBOW LOUNGE RAIND â€“ RALLY

LGBT North Texas will rally again at the Tarrant County Courthouse on Sunday, July 12 at 7:00 PM. If in the next two weeks there is city-wide condemnation of the Rainbow Lounge Raid then the rally will then be one to congratulate the city on their swift and sharp action. On the other hand, if first hand reports still contradict the official story, if arresting officers are not seriously disciplined, if the officer responsible for Chad Gibsonâ€™s brain hemorrhage is still an active member of the Fort Worth Police Department, if apologies are not issued by the mayor, Mike Moncrief, and the Fort Worth Police Chief, Jeffery Halstead then the tone of the rally will adequately express the indignation from our community regarding the City of Fort Worthâ€™s less than aggressive response to homophobia and police brutality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rainbow Lounge Raid Rally<br />
Tarrant County Courthouse<br />
100 E Weatherford<br />
Sunday, July 12<br />
7:00 PM</p>
<p>THE RAINBOW LOUNGE RAIND â€“ RALLY</p>
<p>LGBT North Texas will rally again at the Tarrant County Courthouse on Sunday, July 12 at 7:00 PM. If in the next two weeks there is city-wide condemnation of the Rainbow Lounge Raid then the rally will then be one to congratulate the city on their swift and sharp action. On the other hand, if first hand reports still contradict the official story, if arresting officers are not seriously disciplined, if the officer responsible for Chad Gibsonâ€™s brain hemorrhage is still an active member of the Fort Worth Police Department, if apologies are not issued by the mayor, Mike Moncrief, and the Fort Worth Police Chief, Jeffery Halstead then the tone of the rally will adequately express the indignation from our community regarding the City of Fort Worthâ€™s less than aggressive response to homophobia and police brutality.</p>
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		<title>By: Socrates</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/07/03/letter-from-chief-halstead/comment-page-1/#comment-11998</link>
		<dc:creator>Socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replace the label GAY with the label JEW and the entire western world would be in an uproar.  One Jewish organization after another would threaten a boycott of Dallas/Fort Worth as conference centers for professional organizations (physicians, lawyers, teachers, librarians, etc.).

And what do we get?  No apology from the police chief and a lecture from the local newspaper, the fairly influential FW Star Telegram.  By throwing in a few crumbs, the Public Relations Dept. knows only too well that time will probably work in their favor with gay people being grateful that a little education program may get started some time in the future, and then it&#039;s back to a subtler form of homophobia.

The local press has much to answer for.  Imagine the following editorial in the Star Telegram:

â€œThe Police Department informed THE STAR OF DAVID Lounge management in advance that an inspection would take place the night of PASSOVER. Why didnâ€™t the managers educate the officers about the dateâ€™s significance? Thatâ€™s need-to-know information for uniformed law enforcement officers showing up at a gay bar on that date.

Itâ€™s also need-to-know for any JEWISH bar patron that laying a hand on a police officer will result in a quick trip to jail.

Drinking to the point of intoxication is a crime even in a bar. Officers tasked with enforcing alcohol laws must make sure local and state statutes are observed regardless of the date on the calendar, PASSOVER OR NO PASSOVER. The residents of Fort Worth who share the streets with bar patrons throughout the city expect as much.

Law enforcement officers also must follow agency procedures to make sure inspections are conducted professionally and legally.

Why would a police supervisor, six officers and two TABC agents knowingly risk their own careers, the reputations of their departments and a public relations nightmare WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITY by engaging in targeted or overly aggressive enforcement against a RELIGIOUS minority group? Weâ€™re not sure they would, but as we said, there are more questions than answers at this point.â€

Excuse me while I go throw up my breakfast--INDEED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Replace the label GAY with the label JEW and the entire western world would be in an uproar.  One Jewish organization after another would threaten a boycott of Dallas/Fort Worth as conference centers for professional organizations (physicians, lawyers, teachers, librarians, etc.).</p>
<p>And what do we get?  No apology from the police chief and a lecture from the local newspaper, the fairly influential FW Star Telegram.  By throwing in a few crumbs, the Public Relations Dept. knows only too well that time will probably work in their favor with gay people being grateful that a little education program may get started some time in the future, and then it&#8217;s back to a subtler form of homophobia.</p>
<p>The local press has much to answer for.  Imagine the following editorial in the Star Telegram:</p>
<p>â€œThe Police Department informed THE STAR OF DAVID Lounge management in advance that an inspection would take place the night of PASSOVER. Why didnâ€™t the managers educate the officers about the dateâ€™s significance? Thatâ€™s need-to-know information for uniformed law enforcement officers showing up at a gay bar on that date.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s also need-to-know for any JEWISH bar patron that laying a hand on a police officer will result in a quick trip to jail.</p>
<p>Drinking to the point of intoxication is a crime even in a bar. Officers tasked with enforcing alcohol laws must make sure local and state statutes are observed regardless of the date on the calendar, PASSOVER OR NO PASSOVER. The residents of Fort Worth who share the streets with bar patrons throughout the city expect as much.</p>
<p>Law enforcement officers also must follow agency procedures to make sure inspections are conducted professionally and legally.</p>
<p>Why would a police supervisor, six officers and two TABC agents knowingly risk their own careers, the reputations of their departments and a public relations nightmare WITH THE JEWISH COMMUNITY by engaging in targeted or overly aggressive enforcement against a RELIGIOUS minority group? Weâ€™re not sure they would, but as we said, there are more questions than answers at this point.â€</p>
<p>Excuse me while I go throw up my breakfast&#8211;INDEED.</p>
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		<title>By: brian nesbitt</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/07/03/letter-from-chief-halstead/comment-page-1/#comment-11979</link>
		<dc:creator>brian nesbitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mark, while i&#039;m no dr i don&#039;t think they keep you in icu for almost a week for a itsy bitsy concussion.  

as for fueling the fire with exaggerations, were you there that night?  did you see these events unfold in front of you?  if not, i don&#039;t think you have the right to say the eye witnesses are exaggerating.  

and the last i heard he has not gone home yet.  can anyone verify that he has?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mark, while i&#8217;m no dr i don&#8217;t think they keep you in icu for almost a week for a itsy bitsy concussion.  </p>
<p>as for fueling the fire with exaggerations, were you there that night?  did you see these events unfold in front of you?  if not, i don&#8217;t think you have the right to say the eye witnesses are exaggerating.  </p>
<p>and the last i heard he has not gone home yet.  can anyone verify that he has?</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I don&#039;t buy this newfound outreach to the GBLT community as genuine, as much as it may seem so. If there is any justice the investigations in TABC and FWPD are not going to be nice and show sever deficiencies.

The outcry to his statements and the actions of his employees has been nationwide, there is not a doubt in my mind that this guy is trying to save his own ass right now and will say anything to keep his job.

To my knowledge he hasn&#039;t even suspended the officers involved pending an investigation, even TABC did that. He&#039;s trying to manipulate us just like he tried to manipulate other people with the &quot;gay panic&quot; defense.

He hasn&#039;t even apologized for the statements that he made, ones that he now absolutely knows were inappropriate, premature and offensive. Don&#039;t buy into this charade to keep power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t buy this newfound outreach to the GBLT community as genuine, as much as it may seem so. If there is any justice the investigations in TABC and FWPD are not going to be nice and show sever deficiencies.</p>
<p>The outcry to his statements and the actions of his employees has been nationwide, there is not a doubt in my mind that this guy is trying to save his own ass right now and will say anything to keep his job.</p>
<p>To my knowledge he hasn&#8217;t even suspended the officers involved pending an investigation, even TABC did that. He&#8217;s trying to manipulate us just like he tried to manipulate other people with the &#8220;gay panic&#8221; defense.</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t even apologized for the statements that he made, ones that he now absolutely knows were inappropriate, premature and offensive. Don&#8217;t buy into this charade to keep power.</p>
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		<title>By: Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is responding and I believe being sincere.  I look forward to the results of the investigations so then we can evaluate. 

I am certain that Out and Equal, DFW and Sheriff Lupe Valdez would be willing to help him develop his training program!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is responding and I believe being sincere.  I look forward to the results of the investigations so then we can evaluate. </p>
<p>I am certain that Out and Equal, DFW and Sheriff Lupe Valdez would be willing to help him develop his training program!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Halstead definitely blew it when he spoke prematurely  before getting other information besides those from his lying employees.   Halstead definitely blew it when he didn&#039;t denounce the excessive force and stated he was pleased with the &quot;restraint&quot; shown by his officers.   No question....Andy and John are absolutely correct in their statements and anger.

Where we part ways are their (at least Andy&#039;s) demands for his resignation.

Anyone out there make similar stupid mistakes in business?  Spoke before you knew all the facts?  Defended your employees because you trusted them?  Regretted it later and tried to make it right?

I want to believe Halstead did just that and is now sincerely trying to correct his early blunders in this whole matter.  I believe his recent actions and comments are taking this in the right direction.

Demanding he tender his resignation now gets us where?  Nowhere fast. It ain&#039;t gonna happen and creates further division between the straight and gay community.

Waiting to see what he will do with his recent olive branch to the gay community may just bring us positive changes.  Maybe I see tend to see things half full vs. half empty, but I see this second option as the best choice for our community.

If he doesn&#039;t follow through with his commitments, then I, too, would wish he would resign....although that ain&#039;t gonna happen either.  Get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Halstead definitely blew it when he spoke prematurely  before getting other information besides those from his lying employees.   Halstead definitely blew it when he didn&#8217;t denounce the excessive force and stated he was pleased with the &#8220;restraint&#8221; shown by his officers.   No question&#8230;.Andy and John are absolutely correct in their statements and anger.</p>
<p>Where we part ways are their (at least Andy&#8217;s) demands for his resignation.</p>
<p>Anyone out there make similar stupid mistakes in business?  Spoke before you knew all the facts?  Defended your employees because you trusted them?  Regretted it later and tried to make it right?</p>
<p>I want to believe Halstead did just that and is now sincerely trying to correct his early blunders in this whole matter.  I believe his recent actions and comments are taking this in the right direction.</p>
<p>Demanding he tender his resignation now gets us where?  Nowhere fast. It ain&#8217;t gonna happen and creates further division between the straight and gay community.</p>
<p>Waiting to see what he will do with his recent olive branch to the gay community may just bring us positive changes.  Maybe I see tend to see things half full vs. half empty, but I see this second option as the best choice for our community.</p>
<p>If he doesn&#8217;t follow through with his commitments, then I, too, would wish he would resign&#8230;.although that ain&#8217;t gonna happen either.  Get real.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 04:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CHAD has gone HOME.  He had a concussion.  He&#039;s going to be OKAY.

Continue to fuel the outrage with exaggeration, but Chad has left the building.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CHAD has gone HOME.  He had a concussion.  He&#8217;s going to be OKAY.</p>
<p>Continue to fuel the outrage with exaggeration, but Chad has left the building.</p>
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