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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Support businesses that support us&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: David Taffet</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/23/support-businesses-that-support-us/comment-page-1/#comment-17738</link>
		<dc:creator>David Taffet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disappointed: 346.

And I doubt I learned anything from Bilerico since I have no idea what that is. And I don&#039;t belong to any yahoo groups so that can&#039;t be it. Maybe I&#039;m just the embodiment of evil all by myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disappointed: 346.</p>
<p>And I doubt I learned anything from Bilerico since I have no idea what that is. And I don&#8217;t belong to any yahoo groups so that can&#8217;t be it. Maybe I&#8217;m just the embodiment of evil all by myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Disappointed  Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disappointed  Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes  Tammye,  as  this  explains  a  lot  now  as  to  the  substance  of  that  comment  and  which  circle  is  influencing  his  reporting,  not  to  mention  where  the  censoring  is  coming  from  at  the  Dallas  Voice,  a  clever  trick  that  was  apparently  learned  from  Bilerico  and  a  few  select  Yahoo  social  group  moderators ..............

How  many  other  lies  and  cover-ups   has  that  New York / Dallas  activist  circle  influenced  you  to  believe  David.  Remember,  the  truth  eventually  comes  out  in  journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes  Tammye,  as  this  explains  a  lot  now  as  to  the  substance  of  that  comment  and  which  circle  is  influencing  his  reporting,  not  to  mention  where  the  censoring  is  coming  from  at  the  Dallas  Voice,  a  clever  trick  that  was  apparently  learned  from  Bilerico  and  a  few  select  Yahoo  social  group  moderators &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>How  many  other  lies  and  cover-ups   has  that  New York / Dallas  activist  circle  influenced  you  to  believe  David.  Remember,  the  truth  eventually  comes  out  in  journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Tammye Nash</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/23/support-businesses-that-support-us/comment-page-1/#comment-17733</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammye Nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, comments from &quot;admin&quot; are not from John Wright. They are from David Taffet, who is a parttime staff writer for Dallas Voice. Sometimes he forgets to put his signature on the comments and the admin signature is inserted automatically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, comments from &#8220;admin&#8221; are not from John Wright. They are from David Taffet, who is a parttime staff writer for Dallas Voice. Sometimes he forgets to put his signature on the comments and the admin signature is inserted automatically.</p>
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		<title>By: Disappointed  Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/23/support-businesses-that-support-us/comment-page-1/#comment-17732</link>
		<dc:creator>Disappointed  Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny  Admin  how  the  reply  to  your  comment  was  never  published</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny  Admin  how  the  reply  to  your  comment  was  never  published</p>
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		<title>By: Disappointed  Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/23/support-businesses-that-support-us/comment-page-1/#comment-17730</link>
		<dc:creator>Disappointed  Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John / Admin,

OK,  your  argument  is  valid  technically  in  that  the  CEI  rating  primarily  focusses  on  corporate  policy  and  not  corporate  culture, however  what  is  the  purpose  of  a  diversity  report  if  its  &quot;benchmarks&quot;  are  proposed  to  them  in  advance ??  Shouldn&#039;t  truly  &quot;diverse&quot;  companies  who  advertise  as  such  already  have  these  benchmarks  achieved  and  thus  not  need  a  report  to  tell  the  world  that  they  put  their  money  where  their  mouths  are ???

And  even  so,  how  is  it  that  these  same  companies  who  are  large  corporate  sponsors  of  HRC  always  seem  to  achieve  100%  ratings  on  the  CEI  index,  yet  when  former  GLBT  employees  who  were  treated  horribly  by  them  (despite  their  supposedly  100%  policies)  come  forth  in  the  public  and  in  the  media,  those  facts  and  stories  get  swept  under  the  rug  very  carefully  by  the  GLBT  media.

So  I  stongly  disagree  with  your  assertion  that:

&quot;The rating only singles out companies discriminating based on sexual orientation and gender identity.&quot; 

The  rating  is  a  sales  and  marketing  tool,  plain  and  simple !!  And  being  that  HRC  has  adopted  the  &quot;corporate&quot;  model  in  how  it  runs  its  organization  (as  with  most  non-profits  these  days)  the  aim  is  to  predominantly  help  their  corporate  sponsor&#039;s  bottom  line,  and  what  better  way  for  them  to  do  that  then  to  spread  favorable  word  of  mouth  advertising  via  this  CEI  index,  regardless  of  how  the  company  treats  its  employees.

So,  with  this  system,  organizations  like  HRC  win  because  they  continue  to  get  their  sponsorship  dollars,  the  corporations  win  because  they  have  a  huge  leveraging  tool  to  use  in  the  marketing  and  advertising  department  (and  oh  let&#039;s  not  forget,  to  ensure  that  corruption  and  discrimination  gets  covered-up)  and  last  but  not  least,  the  corporate  folks  in  the  individual  communities  (in  our  case  GLBT  corporate  executives)  win  because  both  HRC  and  their  companies  present  them  with  accolades  and  promotions  making  out  that  those  people  were  the  instrument  of  change  in  the  company............The  fact  is,  they  are  the  few  token  executives  who  sold  the  rest  of  us  out  to  corporate  America  and  who  companies  love  because  they  are  the  ones  who  dupe  the  public  into  thinking  that  their  company  is  this  &quot;Diverse&quot;  place  to  work  for  GLBT  employees...........It  is  &quot;diverse&quot;  for  them  since  they  are  on  top,  and  since  the  companies  know  these  &quot;leaders&quot;  will  keep  this  corrupt  system  well-run  and  protected.  It  is  a  win /win  for  everyone  except  of  course  for  the  employees  who  are  discriminated  against......................

And  yes  John / Admin,  many  in  the  community  have  the  GLBT  journalists  to  thank  for  contributing  to  this  problem,  for  refusing  to  report  the  REAL  and  FACTUAL  story  of  what  goes  on  behind  the  corporate / non-profit   &quot;diversity&quot;  scenes.  Despite  front  page  accolade  headlines,  floats  at  pride  parades,  protectionist  cronies  in  the  community  and corporate  logos  adorning  our  non-profit  advertisements,  there  is  more  to  corporate  diversity  departments  than  you  know  or  can  comprehend.

So  I  say  that  until  you  spend  a  few  months  working  with  a  corporate  &quot;diversity&quot;  department  and  see  how  corporate  policy  revision  is  REALLY  undertaken  (not  what  some  corporate  citizenship  person  wants  you  to  believe)  and  the  TRUE  relationships  between  them  and  our  powerful  GLBT  non-profits,  then  your  argument  would  be  considered  valid.  Until  then  it  will  just  be  business  as  usual  with  the  above  system  well-rooted  and  with  the  employees  who  know  the  inside  silenced  by  the  GLBT  media  and  the  non-profits  to  protect  the  status  quo  and  corporate  perks..................

I  am  ashamed  of  you  John / Admin  that  you  would  be  so  quick  to  stick  your  head  into  the  sand  with  your  former  company  who  treated  you  poorly  and  then  have  the  audacity  to  write  favorable  news  articles  about  the  very  same  GLBT  organization  who  supports  the  company  who  treated  you  like  crap....................   Again,  where  is  the  influence  coming  from  at  the  Dallas  Voice ??

Quite  frankly,  the  day  when  I  ever  see  you  all  at  the  Dallas  Voice  report  unfavorably  (based  upon  factual  evidence)  on  Dallas / Ft.  Worth  based  companies  besides  Cinemark  and  others  and  have  the  journalistic  bravado  enough  to  go  up  against  large  companies  who  cover-up  their  corruption  in  our  community  (free  corporate  perks  or  no  free  corporate  perks  or  pressure  from  the  protectionist  &quot;activists&quot;  who  cover-up  for  them),  then  will  I  ever  believe  that  the  Dallas  Voice  and  the  GLBT  media  as  a  whole  is  one  which  reports  unbiased  and  truthful  news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John / Admin,</p>
<p>OK,  your  argument  is  valid  technically  in  that  the  CEI  rating  primarily  focusses  on  corporate  policy  and  not  corporate  culture, however  what  is  the  purpose  of  a  diversity  report  if  its  &#8220;benchmarks&#8221;  are  proposed  to  them  in  advance ??  Shouldn&#8217;t  truly  &#8220;diverse&#8221;  companies  who  advertise  as  such  already  have  these  benchmarks  achieved  and  thus  not  need  a  report  to  tell  the  world  that  they  put  their  money  where  their  mouths  are ???</p>
<p>And  even  so,  how  is  it  that  these  same  companies  who  are  large  corporate  sponsors  of  HRC  always  seem  to  achieve  100%  ratings  on  the  CEI  index,  yet  when  former  GLBT  employees  who  were  treated  horribly  by  them  (despite  their  supposedly  100%  policies)  come  forth  in  the  public  and  in  the  media,  those  facts  and  stories  get  swept  under  the  rug  very  carefully  by  the  GLBT  media.</p>
<p>So  I  stongly  disagree  with  your  assertion  that:</p>
<p>&#8220;The rating only singles out companies discriminating based on sexual orientation and gender identity.&#8221; </p>
<p>The  rating  is  a  sales  and  marketing  tool,  plain  and  simple !!  And  being  that  HRC  has  adopted  the  &#8220;corporate&#8221;  model  in  how  it  runs  its  organization  (as  with  most  non-profits  these  days)  the  aim  is  to  predominantly  help  their  corporate  sponsor&#8217;s  bottom  line,  and  what  better  way  for  them  to  do  that  then  to  spread  favorable  word  of  mouth  advertising  via  this  CEI  index,  regardless  of  how  the  company  treats  its  employees.</p>
<p>So,  with  this  system,  organizations  like  HRC  win  because  they  continue  to  get  their  sponsorship  dollars,  the  corporations  win  because  they  have  a  huge  leveraging  tool  to  use  in  the  marketing  and  advertising  department  (and  oh  let&#8217;s  not  forget,  to  ensure  that  corruption  and  discrimination  gets  covered-up)  and  last  but  not  least,  the  corporate  folks  in  the  individual  communities  (in  our  case  GLBT  corporate  executives)  win  because  both  HRC  and  their  companies  present  them  with  accolades  and  promotions  making  out  that  those  people  were  the  instrument  of  change  in  the  company&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;The  fact  is,  they  are  the  few  token  executives  who  sold  the  rest  of  us  out  to  corporate  America  and  who  companies  love  because  they  are  the  ones  who  dupe  the  public  into  thinking  that  their  company  is  this  &#8220;Diverse&#8221;  place  to  work  for  GLBT  employees&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..It  is  &#8220;diverse&#8221;  for  them  since  they  are  on  top,  and  since  the  companies  know  these  &#8220;leaders&#8221;  will  keep  this  corrupt  system  well-run  and  protected.  It  is  a  win /win  for  everyone  except  of  course  for  the  employees  who  are  discriminated  against&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>And  yes  John / Admin,  many  in  the  community  have  the  GLBT  journalists  to  thank  for  contributing  to  this  problem,  for  refusing  to  report  the  REAL  and  FACTUAL  story  of  what  goes  on  behind  the  corporate / non-profit   &#8220;diversity&#8221;  scenes.  Despite  front  page  accolade  headlines,  floats  at  pride  parades,  protectionist  cronies  in  the  community  and corporate  logos  adorning  our  non-profit  advertisements,  there  is  more  to  corporate  diversity  departments  than  you  know  or  can  comprehend.</p>
<p>So  I  say  that  until  you  spend  a  few  months  working  with  a  corporate  &#8220;diversity&#8221;  department  and  see  how  corporate  policy  revision  is  REALLY  undertaken  (not  what  some  corporate  citizenship  person  wants  you  to  believe)  and  the  TRUE  relationships  between  them  and  our  powerful  GLBT  non-profits,  then  your  argument  would  be  considered  valid.  Until  then  it  will  just  be  business  as  usual  with  the  above  system  well-rooted  and  with  the  employees  who  know  the  inside  silenced  by  the  GLBT  media  and  the  non-profits  to  protect  the  status  quo  and  corporate  perks&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I  am  ashamed  of  you  John / Admin  that  you  would  be  so  quick  to  stick  your  head  into  the  sand  with  your  former  company  who  treated  you  poorly  and  then  have  the  audacity  to  write  favorable  news  articles  about  the  very  same  GLBT  organization  who  supports  the  company  who  treated  you  like  crap&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..   Again,  where  is  the  influence  coming  from  at  the  Dallas  Voice ??</p>
<p>Quite  frankly,  the  day  when  I  ever  see  you  all  at  the  Dallas  Voice  report  unfavorably  (based  upon  factual  evidence)  on  Dallas / Ft.  Worth  based  companies  besides  Cinemark  and  others  and  have  the  journalistic  bravado  enough  to  go  up  against  large  companies  who  cover-up  their  corruption  in  our  community  (free  corporate  perks  or  no  free  corporate  perks  or  pressure  from  the  protectionist  &#8220;activists&#8221;  who  cover-up  for  them),  then  will  I  ever  believe  that  the  Dallas  Voice  and  the  GLBT  media  as  a  whole  is  one  which  reports  unbiased  and  truthful  news.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disappointed, yes, you are right to some extent. Actually ANY company can know a year ahead of time which benefits and what questions will be asked the following year. To maintain a 100% rating NEXT year, companies will have to add gender reassignment surgery to their health benefits. That&#039;s common knowledge. Companies with 100% ratings know it. companies with zero ratings who are interested know it. In other words, they don&#039;t spring it on anyone, but on the other hand, it&#039;s not a measure of how companies want to treat their employees and clients, it&#039;s how they&#039;re being pushed to treat them.

And of course those ratings are official policies and benefits. Before coming back to work in the office at the Voice, I was working at a company that had a high rating with lots of partner benefits. And they treated their employees like crap. But they treated everyone like crap. The rating only singles out companies discriminating based on sexual orientation and gender identity.

And as far as advertisers in the Voice, I&#039;ve written some very negative stories that involved one advertiser that I thought wasn&#039;t doing what it did best without any editorial interference because of advertising concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disappointed, yes, you are right to some extent. Actually ANY company can know a year ahead of time which benefits and what questions will be asked the following year. To maintain a 100% rating NEXT year, companies will have to add gender reassignment surgery to their health benefits. That&#8217;s common knowledge. Companies with 100% ratings know it. companies with zero ratings who are interested know it. In other words, they don&#8217;t spring it on anyone, but on the other hand, it&#8217;s not a measure of how companies want to treat their employees and clients, it&#8217;s how they&#8217;re being pushed to treat them.</p>
<p>And of course those ratings are official policies and benefits. Before coming back to work in the office at the Voice, I was working at a company that had a high rating with lots of partner benefits. And they treated their employees like crap. But they treated everyone like crap. The rating only singles out companies discriminating based on sexual orientation and gender identity.</p>
<p>And as far as advertisers in the Voice, I&#8217;ve written some very negative stories that involved one advertiser that I thought wasn&#8217;t doing what it did best without any editorial interference because of advertising concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Disappointed  Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/23/support-businesses-that-support-us/comment-page-1/#comment-17724</link>
		<dc:creator>Disappointed  Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah  John,  but  you  fail  to  mention  that  some  of  the  &quot;100% &quot; ranked  companies  that  HRC  and  its  President  endorses  are  also  large  corporate  sponsors  of  HRC.  HRC&#039;s  President  always  seems  to  omit  the  very  important  fact  that  some  corporations  obtain  a  copy  of  the  CEI  index  ONE  YEAR  in  advance  to  assure  that  they  continue  to  receive  100 %  ratings  and  thus  dupe  the  public  into  thinking  that  they  treat  their  GLBT  employees  fairly,  and  sorry  to  say  John,  corporate  perks  or  no  corporate  perks,  many  do  not......

Also,  your  post  fails  to  mention  that  Witeck / Combs  is  a  consulting  firm  whose  clients  are  the  very  companies  that  they  endorse,  so  naturally  they  will  want  the  community  to  support  them  financially.  It  would  prove  their  GLBT  marketing  business  model  that  they  sell  to  companies.

Tell  the  whole  story  John,  not  the  sales  and  marketing  strategy  that  both  HRC  and  corporate  America  want  you  to  publish...............Oops,  sorry,  some  of  those  corporations  are  advertisers  of  the  Dallas  Voice.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah  John,  but  you  fail  to  mention  that  some  of  the  &#8220;100% &#8221; ranked  companies  that  HRC  and  its  President  endorses  are  also  large  corporate  sponsors  of  HRC.  HRC&#8217;s  President  always  seems  to  omit  the  very  important  fact  that  some  corporations  obtain  a  copy  of  the  CEI  index  ONE  YEAR  in  advance  to  assure  that  they  continue  to  receive  100 %  ratings  and  thus  dupe  the  public  into  thinking  that  they  treat  their  GLBT  employees  fairly,  and  sorry  to  say  John,  corporate  perks  or  no  corporate  perks,  many  do  not&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Also,  your  post  fails  to  mention  that  Witeck / Combs  is  a  consulting  firm  whose  clients  are  the  very  companies  that  they  endorse,  so  naturally  they  will  want  the  community  to  support  them  financially.  It  would  prove  their  GLBT  marketing  business  model  that  they  sell  to  companies.</p>
<p>Tell  the  whole  story  John,  not  the  sales  and  marketing  strategy  that  both  HRC  and  corporate  America  want  you  to  publish&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Oops,  sorry,  some  of  those  corporations  are  advertisers  of  the  Dallas  Voice&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tisha McDaniel</title>
		<link>http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/2009/11/23/support-businesses-that-support-us/comment-page-1/#comment-17694</link>
		<dc:creator>Tisha McDaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL...don&#039;t know why but I get a hillbilly feeling when I think about the words depot, shack, wal-mart, cracker, and barrel.  Probably why they score low with HRC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;don&#8217;t know why but I get a hillbilly feeling when I think about the words depot, shack, wal-mart, cracker, and barrel.  Probably why they score low with HRC.</p>
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