Comments on: Prop 8 protest calls out Obama http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html Premier Dallas LGBT Website Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kris http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15094 Kris Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15094 --“It’s the first time a Constitution has been used to take away rights rather than grant them,” said protester Bob McCranie of Carrollton--- Um, did Bob miss that lesson on the 18th US Amendment creating Prohibition? This important issue not withstanding, please be accurate in your US history. (PS, ever notice the 18th amendment took away drinking and the 21st restored it.. and the drinking age used to be 18 and now it's 21 ... strange coincidence) –“It’s the first time a Constitution has been used to take away rights rather than grant them,” said protester Bob McCranie of Carrollton—

Um, did Bob miss that lesson on the 18th US Amendment creating Prohibition? This important issue not withstanding, please be accurate in your US history.

(PS, ever notice the 18th amendment took away drinking and the 21st restored it.. and the drinking age used to be 18 and now it’s 21 … strange coincidence)

]]> By: Donald http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15095 Donald Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15095 While I applaud those organizing the protest, why is it most (90%+) of our protest take place in Oak Lawn where most everyone there supports what we are protesting? The idea behind a protest/march is more visibility about our complaint in areas that need educating and not in a location where people can sip their lattes and politely applaud something they already know. These protest should take place through out downtown locations (Pearl and Ross Ave., The West End, AA Center (home of WFAA), or at City Hall itself to get more visibility and a chance for city organizers/elected officials to interact with our cause. I understand there are issues about permits (45 days), traffic (possible arrest for obstructing traffic), etc. but what good is a protest when you fail to make people outside of Oak Lawn aware of these issues? While I applaud those organizing the protest, why is it most (90%+) of our protest take place in Oak Lawn where most everyone there supports what we are protesting? The idea behind a protest/march is more visibility about our complaint in areas that need educating and not in a location where people can sip their lattes and politely applaud something they already know. These protest should take place through out downtown locations (Pearl and Ross Ave., The West End, AA Center (home of WFAA), or at City Hall itself to get more visibility and a chance for city organizers/elected officials to interact with our cause.
I understand there are issues about permits (45 days), traffic (possible arrest for obstructing traffic), etc. but what good is a protest when you fail to make people outside of Oak Lawn aware of these issues?

]]> By: Tisha http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15096 Tisha Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15096 Donald, I totally agree that this message needs a broader audience. Before we can reach mainstream America, we've got to organize ourselves first. We need to show our own community that we are uniting and that we plan to fight. One of the chants was “Out of the bars, into the streets, we will not accept defeat". We had a great turn out for this rally but it could have been better if people would put down their martini glass and pick up a sign. This is our first objective. Donald, I totally agree that this message needs a broader audience. Before we can reach mainstream America, we’ve got to organize ourselves first. We need to show our own community that we are uniting and that we plan to fight. One of the chants was “Out of the bars, into the streets, we will not accept defeat”. We had a great turn out for this rally but it could have been better if people would put down their martini glass and pick up a sign. This is our first objective.

]]> By: Bill http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15100 Bill Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15100 "Out of the bars and into the streets" they said as they marched from the street to the patio of a bar. Take your protests where they will be seen by someone that is not gay or lesbian and stop associating everything you do with a bar if you want to get heard. “Out of the bars and into the streets” they said as they marched from the street to the patio of a bar. Take your protests where they will be seen by someone that is not gay or lesbian and stop associating everything you do with a bar if you want to get heard.

]]> By: Randy http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15101 Randy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15101 He is to busy bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia.. He is to busy bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia..

]]> By: Doug http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15102 Doug Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15102 Dallas' Day of Decision Rally was a well organized, well attended rally coordinated by just a handful of activists. It made many of the evening newscasts as well as clips on youtube. Congrats to the organizers. Let's keep the momentum going. Dallas’ Day of Decision Rally was a well organized, well attended rally coordinated by just a handful of activists. It made many of the evening newscasts as well as clips on youtube. Congrats to the organizers. Let’s keep the momentum going.

]]> By: Tisha http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15103 Tisha Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15103 Am I speaking in French or something? If we do not unite our community first, we will not win. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. Every other minority community except the gay community figured it out. If we don't give a damn about our own rights then how da hell are we suppose to get the rest of the country to care? Am I speaking in French or something? If we do not unite our community first, we will not win. I don’t see what’s so hard to understand about that. Every other minority community except the gay community figured it out. If we don’t give a damn about our own rights then how da hell are we suppose to get the rest of the country to care?

]]> By: Beau Heyen http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15104 Beau Heyen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15104 Tisha, Some of us are working on that. In fact, there is conversation (I am sure yet again) to start some collaborative work within the LGBTQA community. We need your help, all of you who have commented on this, to make this happen. If you don't like the location of the rally, step up and help us coordinate the next one. If you want us to ban together, step up and help us. We need us all to be a part of this!! Tisha,

Some of us are working on that. In fact, there is conversation (I am sure yet again) to start some collaborative work within the LGBTQA community.

We need your help, all of you who have commented on this, to make this happen. If you don’t like the location of the rally, step up and help us coordinate the next one. If you want us to ban together, step up and help us.

We need us all to be a part of this!!

]]> By: Amazed http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15108 Amazed Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15108 President Obama has been in office less than 6 months and the gay community is already turning on him. How in the world is a Supreme Court decision in California Mr. Obama's fault? What do you expect? For Mr. Obama to put the economy-war-health care on the side? I am an openly proud gay man but its amazing that the gay community gave more respect and patience to Presidents Bush (both) and Clinton than Mr. Obama. I am still a proud Obama supporter. President Obama has been in office less than 6 months and the gay community is already turning on him.

How in the world is a Supreme Court decision in California Mr. Obama’s fault?

What do you expect? For Mr. Obama to put the economy-war-health care on the side? I am an openly proud gay man but its amazing that the gay community gave more respect and patience to Presidents Bush (both) and Clinton than Mr. Obama.

I am still a proud Obama supporter.

]]> By: Daniel Cates http://www.dallasvoice.com/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama-1019414.html/comment-page-1#comment-15111 Daniel Cates Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.dallasvoice.com/news/prop-8-protest-calls-out-obama/#comment-15111 AMAZED No one was trashing Obama, and no one who spoke at the rally appeared to be turning on him per say. It is however time for our community to start holding his feet to the fire. While he is probably the greatest hope our community has had in a president .. well EVER... he is still a politician. He has made our people many many promises, and we have to keep those in his direct line of sight. You say put the "economy-war -healthcare on the side" like we should wait? Like maybe now is not the time for us to be pushing issues like marriage equality? I will remind you that the right time for justice is ALWAYS RIGHT NOW! The Rally, by the way, was a huge success.. hundreds of folks came out and the energy level was amazing! One of the positives of doing a rally of this size IN our own community is it was able to speak to folks it would have otherwise missed. What I mean is that there are those few committed Dallas LGBT folks who would absolutely go downtown for a rally.. we have had similar numbers in front of city hall.. BUT as Tisha said.. we need to fix the issues in our own community first, for some of these folks who are perfectly happy sipping a latte or shopping on Cedar Springs and letting news of a rally seem like a fairy tale.. or for those too cynical to believe that this kind of activism is really possible in Dallas- seeing a Rally this size and this energetic.. one that actually stopped traffic and took over the strip- to these folks this rally spoke volumes and possibly opened a few eyes. Let's try not to get so bent out of shape about how we spoke or where we spoke or who spoke.. let's pat ourselves on the back as a community for SPEAKING.. that is the point and that is what we did. AMAZED
No one was trashing Obama, and no one who spoke at the rally appeared to be turning on him per say. It is however time for our community to start holding his feet to the fire. While he is probably the greatest hope our community has had in a president .. well EVER… he is still a politician. He has made our people many many promises, and we have to keep those in his direct line of sight.
You say put the “economy-war -healthcare on the side” like we should wait? Like maybe now is not the time for us to be pushing issues like marriage equality? I will remind you that the right time for justice is ALWAYS RIGHT NOW!
The Rally, by the way, was a huge success.. hundreds of folks came out and the energy level was amazing! One of the positives of doing a rally of this size IN our own community is it was able to speak to folks it would have otherwise missed. What I mean is that there are those few committed Dallas LGBT folks who would absolutely go downtown for a rally.. we have had similar numbers in front of city hall.. BUT as Tisha said.. we need to fix the issues in our own community first, for some of these folks who are perfectly happy sipping a latte or shopping on Cedar Springs and letting news of a rally seem like a fairy tale.. or for those too cynical to believe that this kind of activism is really possible in Dallas- seeing a Rally this size and this energetic.. one that actually stopped traffic and took over the strip- to these folks this rally spoke volumes and possibly opened a few eyes.
Let’s try not to get so bent out of shape about how we spoke or where we spoke or who spoke.. let’s pat ourselves on the back as a community for SPEAKING.. that is the point and that is what we did.

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