Tonight Joy Behar welcomed two of the most disingenuous homosexual "experts" (who happen to be homosexuals themselves) on her program to debate, or whatever, Hollywood's homophobia. There's Ramin Setoodeh, the Newsweek scribe who, seven months after making terrible arguments about gay actors made more terrible arguments about gay actors. And publicist Howard Bragman, who only says nice things about other gays when they pay him. My god these men are awful. And between Setoodeh trying to reinvent himself as a defender of gay actors (after trampling all over them), and Bragman attacking and laughing at (ahem, non-paying client) Rupert Everett for the way plastic surgery has changed his appearance (aren't you the same bully who's about to help people come out, you fucking jerk?), I'm not sure who's worse. But I do know that when it comes to a conversation about what's good for gays in Hollywood, neither of these men are it.